After a long "talk" with
Scott about evolution I would like to summon up the discussion and draw a few conclussions here.
First of - this whole debackle started with the usual "it's just a theory" remark. Well, let's look at "just a theory" a bit. The Bible has a lot of them .....
- Earth at the center of the universe
- A flat earth
- Not mentioning the billions of worlds in the universe; there's only earth
That's some of the "theories" brought up through man's touch with the christian Bible. This is the same source we now claim explains extreme areas of current science and that we claim has an answer? We don't even see atoms or DNA mentioned in the Bible - but still we have to find our scientific answers there?
Nahh, it's clear that can't be what's meant. Instead, we have a group of people who's already drawn the conclussion and they're trying to find the proof to back it up. Further more, you can't question their solution; it's a given; God is there and everywhere. We can't see him, he doesn't do anything and really there's no difference between pure chance and God - but he's there and of course he must be into every minute details of life.
WHY? Why are we so ARROGANT to think that any super entity like a God would even CARE about one measly earth? Should the first cell have been created by a creator and sent through the universe to hit random plannets; meaning life was "sorta" created; so what? It wouldn't prove any tales in the Bible about the actual happening; and it certainly wouldn't back up the idea that man and God are like "buddy buddy" and we're his favorites.
FAVORITES!! Out ouf a billions potential worlds in the universe WE are the only life that matters? Man - something is wrong with us; we're almost as good as the creator!
Bullucks - it falls appart long before we get there; but as seen even if we would assume there was a creator behind it it still wouldn't prove the Bible.
Another scary idea is, that why the Christian version? What about the Hindus, Islam or the Australian aboriganies? Maybe they had it right? Aren't the christian "scientists" risking to disprove their own religion?
And on a third level - treating religion as a fact is counter productive. Through history, everything unexplainable has been credited God. Fire was the work of God - not chemestry. Birds were meant to fly, not man. Cancer - caused by God. Ohhh - and AIDS; it's not a virus - it's GOD! Hasn't history by now shown that his way of explaining things may help quiting a little child's immediate curriousity; but in the long run it's always been disproved?
You don't need to know the scientific details of evolution, mathematics or astrology to realize that religion has nothing to do with observation or trying to explain how things work. As we learn more about ourselves and our surroundings, we've found explenations that had nothing to do with a God. Not that we find the meaning of life - but we're learning about the building blocks. Of life, the planets and our universe. Is the whole point, that whatever "explenation" the Bible and other religious texts - notable written thousands of years ago - has been showed to be wrong. It's remarkable what some of them could conclude with their primitive tools (compared to today) but by no means were they right. From that list of events, I would bet that the issues that science has not yet been able to describe is just a matter of time. So far nothing has had the Bible disprove a scientific theory.
The big question of why - that seems to bother so many people - will of course NEVER be answered by Science. If you need a reason for your existance to make use of it, religion certainly has your answer. Depending on your temper, you just need to pick the one that has the reason that fits your person the best. The church should stick what it's great at - the "soul" or our happyness, social networking and being the safty-net under people's emotional lives. This is where religion has really strong and powerful meaning in life for some people.
I really don't understand what religion wants on the science side. 500 years ago it may have been natural to assume that the Church had all answers. Today that's just ridiculous. And the fun part is, that should religion managed to be treated as a science; they're running the risk of disproving their God or show that God is faulable. Now - THAT would be some discovery worth noting!
